From a bridge fabricator:
1) We have built many bridge over 200’ long over the years and when it comes to a 250’ bridge we will not be able to meet the 1.3 Hz lateral frequency
I have my North Dakota PE put together the following RFI can you please ask a question about meeting the lateral frequency requirements if they would accept what in below and attached.
If they don’t change something we will not be bidding this project.
RFI on lateral frequency on a 250’x10’ bridge. It will be hard to meet the AASHTO lateral vibration requirement of 1.3Hz.
I recommend one of the following two options.
1. Add Mass Dampeners to the structure to get the fundamental frequency to an acceptable level. This will add $100-$150k to the price. Much less to build the bridge wider.
2. Have customer specify SETRA for vibration design (short section attached). SETRA is referenced by AASHTO Guide Specification for the Design of Pedestrian Bridges.
a. Bridge Class III or IV. IV does not require analysis.
b. Comfort level Minimum Comfort. Unlikely Class III, Average Comfort is attainable.
It should be noted that we have build other 250’x10’ structures that were Through Trusses (two bracing elements) that we were able to get the lateral to work as Class III, Average Comfort. These same bridges have noticeable lateral movement from wind to the point where you cannot comfortably ride a bicycle across on a windy day.
2) We will NOT be able to have a bridge on site by Oct. 10, 2026 for the interim completion date.
If I had an order today we would be looking at 7-8 Weeks for stamped engineered drawings and calculation and due to the size of the bridge, we would not be able to get you delivery of the bridge until late November or December at the earliest, more realistic would be first quarter of 2027.
Can the project completion date be extended?
DOT Response
Response Pending.
Submitted: 4/6/2026 10:05:53 AM